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	<title>Comments on: Introducing OpenSim Inventory Archives (IARs)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: justincc</title>
		<link>http://justincc.org/blog/2009/09/14/introducing-opensim-inventory-archives-iars/comment-page-1/#comment-3310</link>
		<dc:creator>justincc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@WhiteStar - Yes, this kind of IAR import from web is not complicated to do and it is something that I hope to put in soon(ish).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@WhiteStar - Yes, this kind of IAR import from web is not complicated to do and it is something that I hope to put in soon(ish).</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteStar Magic</title>
		<link>http://justincc.org/blog/2009/09/14/introducing-opensim-inventory-archives-iars/comment-page-1/#comment-3293</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiteStar Magic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, something else to Ponder in regards to IAR.

IAR would be an excellent tool for bringing in Items that a person has obtained.

Case Scenario:  A Web Based Service similar to the old SLX type of systems.  If a person could get an OAR and build a region, or get an IAR for an inventory item this would serve a HUGE Audience of people.

IMO, would there be a way to facilitate the Importing of an IAR from an external area such as a Local HDD or WebSite Storage, much like how OARS can be pulled from a website ?  Of course this would require some type of extended function to accomplish but I think it would be a major PLUS overall.

Thanks in Advance for the consideration
WS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, something else to Ponder in regards to IAR.</p>
<p>IAR would be an excellent tool for bringing in Items that a person has obtained.</p>
<p>Case Scenario:  A Web Based Service similar to the old SLX type of systems.  If a person could get an OAR and build a region, or get an IAR for an inventory item this would serve a HUGE Audience of people.</p>
<p>IMO, would there be a way to facilitate the Importing of an IAR from an external area such as a Local HDD or WebSite Storage, much like how OARS can be pulled from a website ?  Of course this would require some type of extended function to accomplish but I think it would be a major PLUS overall.</p>
<p>Thanks in Advance for the consideration<br />
WS</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteStar Magic</title>
		<link>http://justincc.org/blog/2009/09/14/introducing-opensim-inventory-archives-iars/comment-page-1/#comment-3267</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiteStar Magic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response Justin.

In Regards to Item A)   If I have My Password and my Alts Password then standing on a region to backup inventory should be no issue.  The simple fact of having the password should be sufficent cause without the password you get no access to Avatar-X Inventory.

Item B) would be a good Candidate for the proposed llTextBox function should it be available for capturing the requested info.  The one osFunction I could think of, I would not want to have Pub Access for, you know the one...   Maybe a subset of that ? particularly aimed at ONLY IAR generation ??   Just thinking out loud.

Item C)  Given recent events in OSG Inventory ... no more needs to be said I guess.

Thanks Justin, Hope your feeling better.
WS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response Justin.</p>
<p>In Regards to Item A)   If I have My Password and my Alts Password then standing on a region to backup inventory should be no issue.  The simple fact of having the password should be sufficent cause without the password you get no access to Avatar-X Inventory.</p>
<p>Item B) would be a good Candidate for the proposed llTextBox function should it be available for capturing the requested info.  The one osFunction I could think of, I would not want to have Pub Access for, you know the one&#8230;   Maybe a subset of that ? particularly aimed at ONLY IAR generation ??   Just thinking out loud.</p>
<p>Item C)  Given recent events in OSG Inventory &#8230; no more needs to be said I guess.</p>
<p>Thanks Justin, Hope your feeling better.<br />
WS</p>
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		<title>By: justincc</title>
		<link>http://justincc.org/blog/2009/09/14/introducing-opensim-inventory-archives-iars/comment-page-1/#comment-3256</link>
		<dc:creator>justincc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@WhiteStar 

it's possible to do A) already but it isn't supported in the code due to various security concerns.

B) could be done by scripting if suitable os functions were exposed

C) I need to implement the same IAR web installation as for OARs.  Uploading would be pretty neat as well, I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@WhiteStar </p>
<p>it&#8217;s possible to do A) already but it isn&#8217;t supported in the code due to various security concerns.</p>
<p>B) could be done by scripting if suitable os functions were exposed</p>
<p>C) I need to implement the same IAR web installation as for OARs.  Uploading would be pretty neat as well, I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteStar Magic</title>
		<link>http://justincc.org/blog/2009/09/14/introducing-opensim-inventory-archives-iars/comment-page-1/#comment-3252</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiteStar Magic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some further thoughts on IAR to ponder.

What I see as outlying issues: (thinking out loud) 
 
A) Is the attachment / dependency to the scene.
    -  A method of generating the IAR without having to have the avatar standing on the region... IE a Late Night Backup could be run from Console Command / Script such as command-script IARbackups.txt  which could have A, B, C avatar Inventories backed up to IAR ??? without them being parked on the region.
 
B) A method by which an IAR can be password locked, so if Joe Avatar can do an IAR on a designated server they should be able to password it.  Maybe an osFunction that would grab the In-World userid/UUID  and request a password on touch and excecute the dump ?  Optionally request a password for the actual IAR file itself.
 
C) a possible method to transfer said generate IAR from the server to another system by some means, either website or archive system.  That could be ugly and likely not possible as they can get mighty big might fast.  But the idea of transfering teh IAR to another designated destination/path like a Cloud Storage system or other service/server may be a good avenue for maintaining an archive/backup.
 
I think this is essential in large part, as Inventory and Assets are a key point issue in this environment and we cannot depend on the potential of a single point of failure.  We need to have backups and we need our stuff.  

In Closing,  with the pending changes to Core, I feel the time is ripe to get a solid and stable way of using IAR for people.  I am now generating IAR's regularly to protect my materials.

Thanks for Everything your doing Justin !   150% Goodness!
WhiteStar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some further thoughts on IAR to ponder.</p>
<p>What I see as outlying issues: (thinking out loud) </p>
<p>A) Is the attachment / dependency to the scene.<br />
    -  A method of generating the IAR without having to have the avatar standing on the region&#8230; IE a Late Night Backup could be run from Console Command / Script such as command-script IARbackups.txt  which could have A, B, C avatar Inventories backed up to IAR ??? without them being parked on the region.</p>
<p>B) A method by which an IAR can be password locked, so if Joe Avatar can do an IAR on a designated server they should be able to password it.  Maybe an osFunction that would grab the In-World userid/UUID  and request a password on touch and excecute the dump ?  Optionally request a password for the actual IAR file itself.</p>
<p>C) a possible method to transfer said generate IAR from the server to another system by some means, either website or archive system.  That could be ugly and likely not possible as they can get mighty big might fast.  But the idea of transfering teh IAR to another designated destination/path like a Cloud Storage system or other service/server may be a good avenue for maintaining an archive/backup.</p>
<p>I think this is essential in large part, as Inventory and Assets are a key point issue in this environment and we cannot depend on the potential of a single point of failure.  We need to have backups and we need our stuff.  </p>
<p>In Closing,  with the pending changes to Core, I feel the time is ripe to get a solid and stable way of using IAR for people.  I am now generating IAR&#8217;s regularly to protect my materials.</p>
<p>Thanks for Everything your doing Justin !   150% Goodness!<br />
WhiteStar</p>
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		<title>By: justincc</title>
		<link>http://justincc.org/blog/2009/09/14/introducing-opensim-inventory-archives-iars/comment-page-1/#comment-2875</link>
		<dc:creator>justincc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karen - many thanks for the feedback :)  Just to echo the reply I gave on the mailing list..

1)  Yep, this is an issue that's annoyed me too  :)   I'm sure this could be tweaked so that exception causing commands are still saved in command history.  Of course, if anyone else wants to make a patch...  :) 

2)  Good idea.  Unfortunately, it's not a straightforward fix since only missing asset uuids are currently saved but it would be a helpful thing to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karen - many thanks for the feedback <img src='http://justincc.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Just to echo the reply I gave on the mailing list..</p>
<p>1)  Yep, this is an issue that&#8217;s annoyed me too  <img src='http://justincc.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;m sure this could be tweaked so that exception causing commands are still saved in command history.  Of course, if anyone else wants to make a patch&#8230;  <img src='http://justincc.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>2)  Good idea.  Unfortunately, it&#8217;s not a straightforward fix since only missing asset uuids are currently saved but it would be a helpful thing to have.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Palen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Palen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just tried out your IAR and it works great with OpenSim Diva-r11651, Linux/Ubuntu 9.10!

A couple of minor problems:

1) If the syntax of the load iar or save iar is incorrect the command line never gets onto the Gnome Terminal scrollback stack. This is not a feature in Windows command line mode, but it is a very useful feature for someone like me who has to make several tries to get the entire line typo free!

2) The save iar identified 12 files with missing components, but did not appear to name them anywhere! I suspect that these were objects in which I accidentally deleted the texture files (OOPS!). The Clothing directory which I dumped already has 440 files in it, so it sure would be nice to identify any bad files so they can be fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just tried out your IAR and it works great with OpenSim Diva-r11651, Linux/Ubuntu 9.10!</p>
<p>A couple of minor problems:</p>
<p>1) If the syntax of the load iar or save iar is incorrect the command line never gets onto the Gnome Terminal scrollback stack. This is not a feature in Windows command line mode, but it is a very useful feature for someone like me who has to make several tries to get the entire line typo free!</p>
<p>2) The save iar identified 12 files with missing components, but did not appear to name them anywhere! I suspect that these were objects in which I accidentally deleted the texture files (OOPS!). The Clothing directory which I dumped already has 440 files in it, so it sure would be nice to identify any bad files so they can be fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: OpenSim versão 0.6.7 &#171; Estrutura OPEN</title>
		<link>http://justincc.org/blog/2009/09/14/introducing-opensim-inventory-archives-iars/comment-page-1/#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>OpenSim versão 0.6.7 &#171; Estrutura OPEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Foram introduzidos de forma experimental “arquivos de Inventario” (IAR). [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Preserving content creator credit in OpenSim IAR transfers &#124; justincc.org</title>
		<link>http://justincc.org/blog/2009/09/14/introducing-opensim-inventory-archives-iars/comment-page-1/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Preserving content creator credit in OpenSim IAR transfers &#124; justincc.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week I blogged about the new experimental Inventory Archive (IAR) format in OpenSim.  This week I want to explore how much content creator information it preserves and how [...]</description>
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		<title>By: This Week in OpenSim Dev - week ending Saturday 19th September 2009 &#124; justincc.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week in OpenSim Dev - week ending Saturday 19th September 2009 &#124; justincc.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] made save and load Inventory Archive (IAR) commands available to users.  &#8220;save iar&#8221; on the region console saves user inventory, [...]</description>
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